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a restart of the campaign. it's unanimous the government won that debate. the snap polls after the debate showed that. the governor promised he would aggressively counterattack against any mischaracterizations the president threw his way. an did that all night on the offense. he did offer some level of detail. >> i will eliminate all programs by this test if they don't pass it. is the program so critical it's worth borrowing money from china to pay for it? if not i will get rid of it. obama-care is on my list, i apologies, i use that term with all due respect. >> the big question for the romney campaign, is it going to start to move the needle in his direction. bill: we heard from the romney team, what are they saying about the obama team? >> reporter: there are an awful lot of democrats saying they don't know why the prr obama didn't bring his "a" game. some democrats described his body language on stage as being uncomfortable. james carville said it didn't look like the president wanted to be there, it was too much of a bother. here is what david axlerod. >> the president is never satis
beaten down and they feel betrayed by government. >> so ball ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday reminded someone of that moment when candidate obama said that and he gave his rebuttal. >> you know, sometimes when the president is speaking he kind of reveals his thoughts, his little more candid moments. remember that video where he was talking to the donors in san francisco and he said, people like us in the midwest, we get bitter and we cling to our guns and our religion. well, you know what i have to say? this catholic deer hunter is guilty as charged and i'm proud of that fact. and this is-- that's the kind -- that's what problem is. >> clayton: that was paul ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday and to dave's point the major candidates are under lock and key preparing for the debat preps. and in hotels locked in with the debate preps and vice-president joe biden on the campaign trail as well and saying in his response that president obama was dealing with the economy in way and once again blamed president bush for the faulty economy that he was handed. >> alisyn: there you
: it could be the u.s. government, should the family of border agent brian terry prevail in their wrongful death claim. >> the people can go and sue in the united states with american lawyers that would be a very interesting development certainly. >> reporter: for its part the mexican government has remained largely silent, unwilling to criticize its northern neighbor. >> our political elites only worried about obtaining the next position and they and benefits they obtain being in politics. >> reporter: now univision aired its one hour special last night. it alleged that the u.s. ran a second gun-running operation, castaway out of tampa, that knowingly supplied guns to cartels in colombia and honduras. the sad part of this, gregg, out of 2000 guns in "fast and furious" we can only account for about 800. so the karnage will continue for years to come. gregg: a lot of guns remaining out there. william la jeunesse in los angeles. thank you. >> governor romney fallen behind in the national polls. new polls out this morning iowa and ohio behind in both. we were laughing about the expectations s
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